They’re good gloves, I want to start with that. Fit is good, rubberized fingers and palm make grabbing things easy. 100% waterproof as advertised (have already used them snowboarding). What I don’t like… no cuff tightening draw: has a wrist strap but the cuff does not so it’s open gets snow in it; no snot pad: a nice soft area to wipe, it’s a nice feature to have, come on; liner is not attached at the fingers: you all know what I’m talking about here…you pull your glove off after a couple hours of wear and the liner comes out with your fingers, and then is damned near impossible to get all your fingers back in with the loft in the right places to be comfortable or work properly. Higher end gloves either attach the fingers or make a pull out liner, this has neither. I really like these gloves, I do, they look cool and do the job, but it’s the extra that are missing. For the price and quality of most H&V items, I guess I expected more.